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This makes me incredibly happy. The only person missing is Don Cheadle, but surely he must be returning. I mean, he's Basher. Not to mention one of the original 11.

Also, it's David Hyde Pierce's birthday today (he's 47). It's also the birthday of Eddie Murphy, Alec Baldwin, and the late Marlon Brando. Fairly impressive.

And now, I shower. Baby steps.


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Apr. 4th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
But where's Julia? And the sassy agent lady that Brad Pitt wins?
Apr. 4th, 2006 09:53 pm (UTC)
The womens may not be attached yet to the project? I'm sure they would both do it if asked, Julia has said in reports that she loves working with Soderbergh a lot and she'd do anything for him...so I'm sure that's not the problem?
Apr. 5th, 2006 01:26 am (UTC)
Mmmm... But what if Soderbergh has no plans to stop making the series if people keep going to see it? Doesn't she want un autre bebe?
Apr. 5th, 2006 02:04 am (UTC)
Theoretically, if people keep returning to the theatre, the production companies will be keen to continue the series, hence the explosion of sequels, tv shows-to-big screen movies, etc. Also, people are more willing to see a movie when the characters and situations are familiar. Bond movies have been popular for nearly 45 years, and I can assure you that they will not be stopping anytime soon. Comic books-turned-movies are huge draws because they are established characters and situations.

However, every good thing must come to an end. Most series cannot withstand 45 years. The Batman franchise ended after 4, and many think that was too much. It's like gambling...figuring out when to call it quits, but not folding before you make as much as possible.

In the recent interview I posted, George Lucas said (about a fourth Indiana Jones movie): You know the problem there, which is not a problem, is that we don’t have to make that movie. All we can do is hurt ourselves, all it’s going to do is get criticized. I mean it’s basically Phantom Menace we’re making. No matter how you do it, no matter what you do, it won’t be what the other ones were in terms of the impact or the way people remember them.

Ocean's Eleven was a big hit, and a good movie. Ocean's Twelve wasn't bad, but it had a huge following from the first film, and had enough of a new premise and new stars to make it worthwhile (I'll see anything for Vincent Cassel). The problem with Ocean's Thirteen is that it doesn't need to be made. Neither does Indiana Jones 4, and neither did the three Star Wars prequels. So even if they make money, they may lack integrity. It is rare that you find a second or third installment of a series that lives up to the original. X2 was good, but what about X3? I enjoyed The Bourne Identity and The Bourne Supremacy, but perhaps The Bourne Ultimatum will have outlived it's welcome.

All in all, no one can say if it's worth it, but eventually, someone is going to pull a plug, and unless Ocean's Thirteen is an amazing film, I think it will be the last in the Ocean's series...at least for a while. I have that much faith in Soderbergh.

(Dammit, I ramble too much when I talk shop.)
Apr. 5th, 2006 03:25 am (UTC)
That was a huge answer for a tiny innocent comment! I understand and agree with your points, I was just saying that I'm going to miss Julia and Catherine!
Apr. 5th, 2006 03:51 am (UTC)
I know! I got off on a tangent!

The point was that:
1) No, I don't think Soderbergh will continue the series after a third (maybe fourth, but much farther down the line) film.
2) Julia would be excited to return (and wasn't she pregnant during Ocean's Twelve? I know they made a big joke of it all -- Tess "playing" Julia -- but I think she was pregnant for the filming). So bun in the oven or no, if she were asked, I'm sure she'd do it.

As for Catherine. Eh, I couldn't care either way. Maybe they can replace her with Angelina. That would be hot.
Apr. 5th, 2006 05:30 am (UTC)
Okay, I clarify: I don't need Catherine, but I liked her character. I could take her or leave her. Plus, I think that Angelina's breed of humor isn't quite... smooth... enough for the series, oui? And I believe you're right about Julia, I forgot how cool and mucho loved Soderbergh is when I made that thoughtless comment. Forgive me.

And, tangents are good.
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